Donald Trump isn’t actually masculine, but he is using men’s fears against them in his presidential campaign, an expert said.

Liz Plank, the author of the book For the Love of Men: A Vision for Mindful Masculinity, appeared on MSNBC on Saturday to discuss the gender gap in the current presidential election and how men are looking at the candidates.

The host asked Plank about Vice President Kamala Harris’ recent comments directed at her male supporters, and what her running mate Tim Walz has done regarding his own masculine image.

“Tim Walz uses his masculinity for good and Donald Trump exploits it for his own gain,” Plank responded.

She then continued:

“Can we talk about masculinity, right? Trump is putting on a performance of masculinity. Because he’s not actually masculine. This is a guy who spends more time with his make-up artists than with his own advisors. But even setting aside that he probably wears more make-up than Kamala Harris, masculine men aren’t afraid of women. They’re not afraid to debate women. Masculine men don’t have meltdowns on stage because a woman that they didn’t like asked them a question that they didn’t like. Masculine men aren’t manipulated by people who give them compliments.”

She added that masculine men “actually protect women.”

“They don’t enact abortion bans that endanger women,” she said.

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